Spray foam insulation nightmare: What can happen if it’s not installed correctly (CBC Marketplace)
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Spray foam insulation nightmare: What can happen if it’s not installed correctly (CBC Marketplace)


(♪♪)>>Tom: This week on “Marketplace”.>>I’m afraid for the children and, you know, what they’ve been exposed to.>>Tom: Insulation nightmares.>>I think we’ve got what we need for the lab.>>Tom: It’s a popular energy saver.>>When It’s installed properly, it’s really — it’s a bullet proof product.>>It’s gotta come out, the foam’s gotta come out.>>Tom: That could put you out of house and home …>>You’re playing kind of a game of Russian Roulette with this.>>Tom: And transform your life into a renovation horror story. (♪♪)>>Tom: It’s a scorching June day. We’re driving into the Caledon Hills, north of Toronto, and into a nightmare. The house of their dreams, now haunted. The owners living in a camper steps from the front door. This is a refuge for Robert and Sonia Franceschini and their two kids. I guess it won’t be a long tour.>>No probably not. So this is where we’ve been living.>>Tom: Wow, yeah.>>This is the trailer. The kitchenette area.>>Tom: Right. So you’ve got two young children. Are they asking lots of questions about why are we in here?>>We try not to talk too much in front of them so they don’t get worried or frightened.>>Tom: What could be so frightening? Wow, big house. Nice. It’s just 14 years old he says. 3000 square feet. Mortgage free. But right now, he couldn’t sell it if he tried. The reason? There’s something in the air. Ok the bedroom. Oh yeah, I can smell that.>>Oh, yeah.>>Tom: Geez.>>It’s pretty bad.>>Tom: Pretty strong, yeah. foul. Like bad fish smell.>>The hotter it gets the more, the more it smells.>>Tom: Right.>>The more it smells.>>Tom: And if you stay in here long, what happens?>>Well, you’ll see within the first five minutes you’ll probably start getting a headache.>>Tom: Actually I’m getting a headache now, honest to God. I’m feeling something here. Yeah, it’s quite, uh, it’s insidious. It’s not just the bad smell that’s made their home unliveable.>>Well I started feeling like excruciating pain, joint pain, in the knees and I had swelling in my legs and my feet. And, uh, I just looked at Robert and I said, Robert, I think I need to go to the hospital.>>Tom: They feel as if their house is attacking them. The trouble started this spring they say. Just days after their attic was treated with spray foam insulation. Did you call the company and explain you were having problems? What did they do?>>I brought them up to the bedroom where the main problem was and they said they really couldn’t smell anything. And I was flabbergasted.>>Tom: So what did you think when the company said we don’t smell anything?>>Well, I knew exactly where this was gonna go. And this is why were still here two months later.>>Tom: You heard right. On our visit, they’d been out of their home for two months. When she has to go inside, Sonia wears a mask.>>We thought we were doing something to improve our home and instead they basically destroyed my home. They ruined it. We can’t live in it anymore.>Tom: Not the kind of testimonial the spray foam industry wants to hear. Over the past decade, it’s become the hottest trend in Canadian home insulation. The industry is growing by 30% every year. Why the boom? High heating costs, government tax credits.>>They introduced spray foam which I absolutely love.>>Tom: And those home reno shows. (♪♪)>>Tom: The spray foamer those stars rely on?>>Sorry I can’t remember all the shows, there’s so many.>>Tom: Alex Schuts, who started his own business while in high school.>>I’ve been doing it 22 years. I live and breathe insulation. It’s good for the environment because we save on burning of fossil fuels. It doesn’t let drafts through. when It’s installed properly It’s really a bullet proof product, right.>>Tom: Hmm, when it’s installed properly?>>It’s not simple, and you don’t just pick up the gun and start spraying.>>Tom: Nope, it’s more like a science project right in your home. The sprayer is mixing two sets of serious chemicals he’s specially trained to handle. The conditions have to be just right. And the foam has to be sprayed in thin layers, so it can cure allowing the chemicals to stabilize. It’s sophisticated stuff that promises an energy efficient home. And Alex Schuts says it works that way almost every time.>>There’s a lot of foam being sprayed, there’s a lot of happy customers.>>Tom: In fact, the Franceschini’s were happy when they had a family property spray foamed this past spring. But after their attic job at home, Sonia says not only did she feel ill, she says her daughter broke out in rashes.>>I’m afraid for the children and, you know, what they’ve been exposed to and, um, you know, is there going to be any long term effects to what they’ve been exposed to and it’s just really upsetting. (♪♪)>>Tom: Fear, stress, uncertainty for two months. Time to find out if this foam has taken possession of their home. We call in Frank Haverkate. Frank, how are you doing.>>Hi Tom, how are you, nice to see you.>>Tom: He’s a certified indoor air quality specialist. He’s trying to figure out what chemicals might be floating around.>>Let’s take a reading in the bedroom where we smell odours.>>Tom: He pulls out his computerized air detector. And the small tins gather air samples for later.>>All these samples are going to be here for 48 hours.>>Tom: Then we enter the belly of the beast. If an attic can be a belly.>>So we just want to get a cutaway of the inside of the core closest to the bottom.>>Tom: Frank also wants to test a foam sample.>>I’m not wearing any nitral gloves or any gloves because I don’t want the chemicals from the nitral affecting the sample that I’m cutting.>>Tom: Could this be what’s giving off bad fumes?>>I don’t know if you want to take a sniff of that but it has a pretty good odour to it.>>Tom: Mmm, it’s that fishy odour again, right? Same smell from the bedroom. we’re right above the bedroom, right here.>>I think we’ve got what we need for the lab.>>Tom: Excellent.>>Great. Let’s get out of this sauna.>>Tom: I agree with you. There is no graceful way to do this. Foam samples in hand, Frank heads out, and offers a few last minute instructions to the family.>>Stay out of the bedroom. just leave everything the way it is I’ll be back in a couple of days to pick it up.>>Tom: The Franceschini’s may feel alone in this horror show.>>We all felt burning like ammonia.>>Tom: Turns out they’re not.>>We live with a nightmare still.>>Tom: Tales from the deep south. Reveal more foam invasions.>>You’re playing kind of a game of russian roulette with this. (♪♪) (♪♪)>>Tom: we’re investigating a renovation horror story, and our journey into the dark side of spray foam has taken us south to the sunshine state.>>Tonight action 9 exposes a growing threat to local home owners.>>Tom: Where we heard more reports of foam invasions.>>My heart just started racing and racing, and I was hyperventilating and I fell to the ground.>>Tom: I’m in Kissimi, Florida, an Orlando suburb. on the way to meet Joan and Mike Roth. Driven from their house by spray foam three years ago. So your trailer was over here?>>Yes, it was over on thisre? side. That was a nightmare. that’s how we list everything that happened to us, just the overall category, we call it a nightmare.>>We all felt burning like ammonia, it was an awful experience.>>This just gives you a sense of how deep this is.>>Tom: Their home video is now the Rothi’s personal horror flick. It started when they spray foamed the attic. They wanted to cut their energy costs. It was the cost of their health and home that blindsided them.>>We say before the foam and after the foam. I mean, It’s changed our lives.>>Tom: First the installer and manufacturer claimed there were no problems. Then tried some repairs. nothing worked.>>So I actually got on the phone and called remediation companies,companies that take out asbestos, and that type of thing, deal with mould problems; none of them had a protocol for spray foam. Nobody was going to touch it.>>Tom: What the Roths were learning is that North American spray foam industry has no official guidelines for taking out a bad job.>>So we said we’re going to have to pull the sheeting off the roof, pull the whole thing off, and have someone mechanically go in and scrape every piece of wood and every piece of drywall and take it and throw it away.>>Tom: And how did that go?>>What was it, 16 days?>>Sixteen days it took.>>Finally they got 90-some per cent of it out.>>Tom: Safely locked away in the garage, Mike is keeping some relics from their ordeal. Looks like candy.>>It does not smell like candy.>>Tom: Oh, yeah, yeah, sort of a fishy smell. There are other reminders that are far more upsetting. Their son Julian has suffered from asthma and joint pain ever since, reacts to the chlorine in the pool. But the Roths say he was fine until the morning the spraying started, when he was sleeping.>>This is Julian’s bedroom. this is where they sprayed first. I’m still upset when I think about that crucial time when he was in the room when they were spraying right over his bedroom. Makes me sick. Makes me sick to think about.>>Tom: In fact, the whole family was inside that day.>>They didn’t say anything about leaving the house and here they are spraying these chemicals up there and we’re still in the house.>>Tom: Health issues. Smelly foam. Living in a trailer. The Roth’s story is eerily similar to our Canadian case. As spray foam’s popularity has spread, so have more troubling stories.>>You’re playing kind of a game of Russian roulette with this.>>Tom: Bernie Bloom is a kind of foam buster.>>It doesn’t matter if you did it right twenty times in a row, the twenty first home might be different.>>Tom: People such as Bernie are in demand across the U.s. they’re expert advisors for a number of class action lawsuits currently underway. a leading indoor air scientist for 40 years, he’s involved with dozens of bad spray foam issues, six of them here in Florida.>>We have more and more houses being sprayed. I expect there’s going to be more, not fewer, problems.>>Tom: The man who helped design ventilation systems for the international space station believes spray foam is a formula for trouble.>>The foam itself is manufactured in the house, not in a factory. If you spray it too thick and it gets too hot, then the reactions that happen are not what was designed in the factory or in the laboratory. You got a runaway reaction.>>Tom: So that fishy smell? Bernie says it means the chemicals in the foam weren’t mixed right and didn’t stabilize.>>When it works, it does fine. When it doesn’t work, and if you’re in the house, you can become chemically sensitized which is a dreadful condition.>>Tom: Bernie’s not a doctor. but experience tells him that’s what happened to the Roths. Why would they be there or why wouldn’t they be told to leave?>>If you tell somebody, um, we’re going to spray the stuff, It’s great stuff, but we want you not to be in the house for a day or two. which is conventional industry Internal guidance, some people are going to ask, why? Is there something wrong? Is it toxic?>>Tom: The day their attic was sprayed in Caledon, the Franceschinis weren’t worried about the foam because they say, they didn’t know about staying out of the house.>>Most of the time we were out here while they were spraying. If we needed something we’d run in the house and get it. When the salesman was here he may have mentioned it, but I don’t recall. But out of all pamphlets, paperwork I got, or all my quotes, nothing in there that says I should have stayed out of the house, cause that would have stuck in my head.>>Tom: And here’s their job quote. Nothing about staying out of the house. Nothing in the company brochures either. Meantime, It’s been more than three months since they’ve had a family meal in their dining room or kitchen.>>What took you so long?>>Oh, please.>>Tom: Can it really be that bad in the house so long after the job was done? (♪♪)>>Tom: Oh, yeah. It’s still there. There’s still that fishy smell.>>It’s still off gassing.>>Tom: Yeah, you can still smell it.>>We’ll turn that fan on, ventilate the whole house, open up all the windows, shut it down and it’s right back.>>Tom: Remember — we tested the bad air in the master bedroom and the foam above it. Now Frank Haverkate is back with some unsettling results. The air samples reveal a laundry list of chemicals.>>In a nutshell you’ve got some Toluene issues, you’ve got MEK issues.>>Tom: Some of those things can be linked to cancer.>>Ethylbenzene.>>Tom: Frank believes the spray foam job’s to blame but can’t conclusively prove it. Now for the foam results.>>One of the surprising things is we found formaldehyde. Now, it’s –>>Tom: Formaldehyde?. We’re surprised. The manufacturer of the Franceschini’s foam says their insulation doesn’t contain formaldehyde or similar compounds.>>Again, they’re low levels but, uh, it really shouldn’t be there.>>Tom: Frank thinks It’s the installation job gone wrong, creating new, dangerous chemicals. What do you think about what you’re hearing.>>Needless to say It’s scary.>>Tom: You scared?>>Yes, very much so.>>Tom: So what’s your advice to them?>>You’re gonna have to get the product removed.>>Tom: Desperate times, desperate measures.>>Well, you can only stay in a trailer for so long.>>Tom: you’re about to see one extreme makeover. (♪♪) (♪♪) (♪♪)>>Tom: The Franchini’s are tired of trailer living.>>Go into our room, go. (♪♪)>>Tom: Tired of being spooked by the spray foam in their attic.>>I’m still in disbelief. I can’t believe that somebody would do this to a family and not want to take ownership for what they did.>>I need to get back into my house.>>Tom: And they’re tired of searching for answers. The foam manufacturer had the air and the foam tested and said its product wasn’t causing problems. Then, an independent group determined a section of foam was too thick and emitting chemicals. The manufacturer eventually agreed. the family has heard enough.>>It’s gotta come out, the foam’s gotta come out. (♪♪)>>It’s gotta come right out. Yep.>>Tom: Removing bad foam is what Alex Schuts is up to today.>>Mainly on this side. This side too. It’s the middle section that’s the worst.>>Tom: The stuff his man sprayed isn’t making anyone sick and it doesn’t stink but It’s cracking and peeling.>>Never seen it this thick. This is the worst I’ve ever. seen, Tom. It’s terrible.>>Tom: Yes. TV’s most famous foam sprayer doesn’t always get it right and the industry agrees not every job is perfect.>>I hate the fact that it’s happening, but we’re here, we’re here to fix it. And it doesn’t cost the customer any money.>>Tom: How common is it for installers to have to take out foam?>>It’s rare. It’s happening more now than probably in the past because there’s a lot more newer contractors out there.>>Tom: In your view, then, if an installer gets it wrong, are they obliged to fix it do you think?>>Damn right. Yeah, yeah. If you’re not doing what you’re supposed to be doing, fix it.>>Tom: So we’re hitting the road to Huntsville, Ontario, to talk to the company that spray foamed the Franceschini’s attic. A family business called Thermoseal Insulation. Richard Clement is the owner. So what do we have here?>>So this is the chemical, the two chemicals go together. If It’s not sprayed correctly it certainly could be a problem.>>Tom: he’s been in the business for decades. He figures the company’s done about 15,000 spray foam jobs, and says it’s their first case like this.>>I was in the bedroom, like the master bedroom upstairs.>>Yes.>>Tom: That’s where I got that smell. Did your folks go up there when they first visited the house?>>When they went there and couldn’t, they couldn’t detect it — I should qualify that,ct that they did smell, but it’s the smell they are accustomed to with a fresh application of polyurethane foam. They didn’t detect a fishy smell as the homeowner did.>>Tom: Richard says consultants told him only about 1% of the foam was bad.>>Tom: So why didn’t your company take out that foam?>>We offered to take out that foam. The homeowner decided that he wanted to have the entire attic area, 13 or 1400 square feet removed and that, in our opinion, and every other professional’s opinion was — unrealistic and unwarranted.>>Tom: Given that um, the wife got sick, days after it happened, can you understand why they’d probably want to get rid of it, get it out of their house?>>We’re sorry that the folks got sick but we don’t feel that it’s necessarily anything to do with the foam.>>Tom: He also disagrees with the family’s claim they weren’t warned about staying out of the house. There are guidelines that say in a residence the family shouldn’t be in the house for 24 hours.>>He was told that. he was told that by three different people from our company.>>Tom: Is there a reason it’s not on like the quote or the contract or anything like that written down?>>Since that incident we have put it in writing.>>Tom: Here’s Thermoseal’s new contract. By signing, the homeowner acknowledges: I have been informed of the health hazards and. I am not to occupy my residence for a period of one day (24 hours) after spray foam is installed. Spray foam is popular but Clements suggests it’s not always the best insulation choice.>>Tom: You try to talk people out of it.>>Yes, we do. So maybe people are using it too much in their houses?>>in some of the places we’re working it’s become the standard and there are, I think there are better applications out there.>>Tom: So if you’re thinking of Insulating, learn the risks, and benefits, of all kinds of insulation. If you pick spray foam, make sure the installer is certified and experienced. Get a guarantee of foam removal in writing, in case things go wrong. And stay away for at least a day. (♪♪)>>Tom: As for the Franceschinis, the disturbing tale of the house in the Caledon Hills has reached the end of the road. Are they still in the trailer? They got some relief? Problem solved? Trying to find out.>>Well, a you can come in and have a look. As far as you can see, if you look up there, the whole roof was removed.>>Tom: they’ve actually blown the lid off their home>>The only way to remove the foam for safety reasons was to Remove the whole roof.>>Tom: This renovation horror story ends with a domestic decapitation. Did they take it off in one piece?>>Yeah, the ceiling is still underneath. Well, we can see from the front. (♪♪)>>Tom: It’s almost like a skeleton in a way, right? Its finally stopped haunting you.>>Thank God that it’s outta my house and we don’t have to breath any of this anymore.>>Tom: After this long nightmare and its dramatic end Robert Franceschni is waking up to a new realization. He has to think about insulation again.>>And I have to be honest with you, I haven’t gotten to That stage yet on what to do. I guess it would be really stupid to try and re-spray foam. So… (♪♪)

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100 thoughts on “Spray foam insulation nightmare: What can happen if it’s not installed correctly (CBC Marketplace)

  1. Wow; sometimes new and improved is not always the best choice. After seeing this calling me old fashioned is a compliment.

  2. after seeing this I decided to go with regular fiberglass insulation that can be easily removed my neighbor behind me had this done in his house smells like rotting fish his whole family has health problems now

  3. If a person enters a store with a gun my first thought is this, "Robbery!"
    If a person shows up to spray foam a home and he's wearing a respirator, I think, "Poison!"
    In either situations I want no part of it! Anyway, I hope no one was seriously harmed!
    I think a class action lawsuit is right around the corner!

  4. I wanted to buy a van and converted in a mobile van .I wanted to spray the van with foam but now I'm afraid…I have to get some other solution for insulation ! Any suggestions ?

  5. What's the issue .. "attic was treated" … Ok, untreat it. Put on a respirator (or a "hooka" air scuba diving setup, Scott AirPak or similar) and scrape the crap out. Too much work ???? What, 3 days tops. The stuff is really easy to cut and rip. I think there is one hell of a lot of grandstanding going on here for lawsuit purposes

  6. Meanwhile, TOXIC TOBACCO SMOKE KILLS 1,800 INNOCENT people (who were exposed to the lethal smoke from tobacco addicts) around the world, EVERY DAY!

    BAN ALL SMOKING, EVERYWHERE, NOW!

    http://medicolegal.tripod.com/toxicchemicals.htm

  7. When we did our new house build I insisted on spray foam insulation. Our builder dug in his heels and refused. He said that for our location and our heating and cooling needs, a solid insulation and house wrap would be a better application. We argued. I thought he was being cheap. My husband was the tie breaker and conceded to the builder. I was pissed, but had other things to worry about.

    Two years later I must admit, the builder was right on all counts. Our house is air tight and absolutely insulated. I found out later that in very hot climates, spray foam isn't the ideal insulator and that the batt insulation has improved a ton over the last 10-20 years. I wasn't getting the old pink stuff that had failed me in the past. The house wrap is genius and takes care of any gaps. It's like a quarter of an inch thick and insulating in its own right. It'll actually last longer in the hot, dry climate than spray foam and doesn't come with any of the dangers and out-gassing. As I have chemical sensitivities, this decision probably made my home livable for me.

    So now I admit it. I was so very wrong. And I'll happily tell anyone not to make the same mistake that I almost did.

  8. If the mix ratio wasn't perfect and if the temperature was too high for the thickness of foam sprayed the uncured chemicals will leach; hence the stink.

  9. back in the 70s and 80s ,the engineers recommended plastic covering walls and ceilings,,as a dry waller,,we would stab the plastic to let gallons of water out to hang our drywall,,,,talk about rot and mildew,,as a carpenter,45yrs +,,I recommend regular glass insulation with out the covering,,no paper,no aluminum,no plastic,,moisture in,moisture out,,the paint on your walls is the moisture barrier,,from experience

  10. I did blown isolation in my attic. it was diy no need for gloves or respirator. HUUUMMM that should be a clue. I worked great by the way.

  11. When I worked for a medical company who manufactured Medical Life Support Ventilators in the late 70s we used this spray foam for making packaging inserts for shipping of finished product within a year we discovered the chemicals used was making employees sick who was performing this operation & may cause contamination to the product completely against FDA GMPs of adulterated products & immediately stop using it… This tells us something about this product although cheaper than styrofoam inserts it wasn't worth the risk of a lawsuit nor a FDA audit investigation… FDA Good Manufacturing Practices (GMPs) guidelines are very strict & pacific..

  12. After watching this, I'm thinking someone, in the supply chain, Went For A Cost Cutting, With A Cheaper Foam!. I think This Because Most Of The Jobs Had NO Problems. Find Out Who's Foam, Was It???

  13. Seems like the first couple were better off in Italy capish?…….before you sign anything first ask about what type of warranty you're getting…..if it sounds too good it probably is…….

  14. Been better off to have laid styrofoam sheets in the attic. I know, a little after the fact………🤢🤮🤮🤮

  15. Seriously, don’t all of you think this stuff should be put on hold until this is researched more?? I wouldn’t touch this stuff with a 10’ pole!!😬😬😬

  16. I'm a licensed home inspector in Greenville South Carolina accurate inspection service Taylor's South Carolina

  17. I can't imagine someone using this product. Anytime you have to mix harmful chemicals and stay away for 24 hours, should be a red flag for anyone. It's something I would never do. Paper insulation is just as good and much cheaper.

  18. Had a friend who worked at an insulation company. When his girlfriend cheated, he got a 25 lb insulation tank, and opened it and threw it in her car and shut the door. Whole interior became a block of solid Rock hard foam.

  19. down in South Texas is being used alot, and let me tell you I go in attics sprayed with this stuff and it's a walk-in cooler.but they usually only spray the roof rafters not the ceiling rafters where all the wires and plumbing go.

  20. I am not downplaying the real dangers & concerns surrounding insulating spray foam but I find it hilarious at the comment that Frank makes at 6:54, (paraphrased) "I am not wearing protective gloves because I don't want the chemicals from the gloves affecting the samples of foam I am cutting out". Then, Frank, the chemical expert, puts the samples into plastic Ziploc bags, WTF. Then, at 14:34 the testing results are reviewed. To no surprise, some nasty chemicals are found. What is bizarre to me is that the say that they found formaldehyde which is not listed in the foam ingredients but they plainly insinuate some sort of malfeasance on the part of the foam manufacture. In my opinion, Frank, the chemical expert, contaminated the foam sample when he put it in a Ziploc bag. If you do a little research, Ziploc bags are produced with highly toxic chemicals including formaldehyde. All this said, there is no news report of any kind that you can believe. It is imperative that people of this planet educate themselves in the truth and question everything.

  21. I have never seen spray insulation in an attic in that scale.. ..Only crawlspaces, garages and some basements.. ..attics should only use insulation batt or cellulose insulation.. ..The heat from the attic could be interacting with the chemicals in the spray foam… just saying..

  22. The reason why foam is probably better is because it is by far the most effective vapor barrier you can have. But, if the temperature during application isn't warm enough it won't cure right. And if both chemicals aren't mixed at the correct ratio, those areas in question might never actually cure…leaving sections of raw chemical.

  23. In my unprofessional opinion. 1. they did not mix the chemicals correctly 2. they should not be in the house while they spray 3. the chemicals they claimed to use is not what they used. They used something cheaper, that is why the smell of formaldehyde. 4. the company that sprayed is responsible, an extra 5 minutes making sure the chemicals mixed correctly could have saved a lot of expense and suffering.

  24. Even if it didn't have these problems, I wouldn't use it. A house needs to breathe, this foam makes a house too airtight.

  25. The housing industry knew about the danger of asbestos for decades before they did anything to change it because they had to find a feasible alternative first. It wasn't until fiberglass batting was developed to an acceptable level of efficiency that asbestos was suddenly banned. Now the industry is keeping a new secret: Fiberglass batting is hazardous. They tried to develop spray foam insulation but failed so the industry currently has no choice but to pretend it still doesn't know fiberglass batting is hurting people for another decade or two. Our economy would tank if we suddenly banned the use of fiberglass for insulation without a feasible alternative because the entire residential construction industry would stop dead in its tracks.

  26. I wonder about the people who had their houses sprayed back in the 80s? Could it be the Same stuff? We had ours done then. It certainly didn't Work! But I don't recall any odor.The friend who did it is dead so we can't ask……

  27. I gave my wife a spray foam breast enhancement while she was asleep. I used the triple action foam. She woke up and is a 44 ddd.

  28. The W5 journalist wasn't in the house during the cure time and he immediately got a headache, so that's just BS about them being chemically sensitized during the cure time.

  29. In a nutshell, you've got issues with (trace amounts of common solvents in nearly every product you purchase) My god, let's call the lawyers

  30. I bet the trailer that they are staying in has urethane foam in it. This is a new revelation to me and I used to spray urethane foam, what a shame… great insulation that could be harmful to people!

  31. In the last few weeks , I refused to have my house weatherize or insulated because I have asthma. The the process was free to me because it was through the city. I knew without a doubt I shouldn't have it done and now I'm glad I did not. they never told me I had to take a week off from work, nor did they tell me I could not stay in the house. All I pictured was a bunch of holes in the walls and men walking around in white suits and goggles. The mess was more than I could handle, so I declined.

    They also told me that I could not have my house rewired after this process.

  32. EASY FIX: Install exhaust fan at one end of the attic, and fresh air intake at the other end of the attic.

    However, I am no pro and have no experience with this stuff. I just think if the attic has an exhaust fan, you wouldn't notice anything in any room under the attic. I could be wrong, but if it was my house, that would be my first action.

  33. it was not heated write when being sprayed happens every time I c this problem my bosses house same problem and we Ben doing this 4 30 years

  34. Why spray foam when you can use an all natural product called fiberglass? No cemicals, no mixing or spraying…

  35. People seem to have forgotten the Chinese Sheetrock Scandal. Those chemicals are listed in the sheetrock. Look into that millions of homes were torn down or still haven't been tested.

  36. 19:00 were sorry they got sick but they paid for it so basically it's not our problem. but we added in our contract about the safety hazards now

  37. Come on two months later and the family is still having the same problem? It's common sense that it was an error of the installer, their screwup!

  38. I deliver with truck like 10 tanks of this they call great stuff Foam that is hazardous material A and B tanks to state of Wyoming.They use for oil lines from Alaska to Texas.And is great for temporary use as they due to keep pipes straight for welding.But will newer spray in my house.All foam as the Polystyrene (C8H8)n <<< are radioactive. If I haul in my trailer 10 tanks in case they opens and mix will close that much road like miles and cleaning will be over $20.000 then you know how bad it is. All load was 41.000 lb.Thanks God no more to take that load.

  39. Using a non-vapour permeable foam such as this would not be allowed under the 'Building Regulations' (Part L) in the UK.
    We build very differently too; many American houses are just sheds!
    All loft insulation must be vapour permeable and the loft space requires specified levels of ventilation too, to avoid condensation forming on the roof tiles, which has been proven to rot the tile battens!
    Thank goodness we have more regulation than the US, but isn't that the same old problem with America – less regulation gives more profits, and these companies are making lots of money, that's all that counts in the US! SICK COUNTRY!

  40. My brother "discovered" spray foam 20 years ago. He DIY and learned well how to install it right. Know your chemical soup.

  41. Nice fear mongering. "Are you SCARED?". How can I really assume this is good journalism when you are using 1950s horror movie theremin tracks as the lead in to the test results? Very few facts. Very much scare tactics and delivery. Is this an issue? Yes, Is this blowing things out of proportion as a risk? Damn straight. Is it done in a very one sided way, yes it was.

  42. These pansies cry and whine and bicker instead of going up in the attic and pulling all the foam out they go by a camper instead I'm doing the work themselves they let their home just go. What a bunch of losers all they had to do is do the work themselves and take the damn foam out!

  43. My friend's gun shop just caught on fire from a lithium battery exploding and the only thing that saved the shop from burning down was the foam insulation so this stuff could go either way it could be a bulletproof product if installed correctly. My advice would be to do some research into the company and see how many complaints they've had before using them

  44. Lhess Chemicals the better…for sure this Foam is pure chemicals therefore, you will be breathing that for life.and if not, long term cancerigenous chemicals. You save on Hydro to spend with the Hospital.

  45. I can tell you guys EXACTLY what is wrong here. The INSTALLER/S applied additional layers of insulation BEFORE the PREVIOUS layers were CURED. In other words, it WAS NOT ALLOWED TO DRY. Subsequent layers applied SEALED IN the UNCURED INSULATION. The Company that sold the service, as well as the UNTRAINED applicator/s are LIABLE. PERIOD.
    In the US, we have a choice, one choice is pulverized NEWSPAPER- blown in wet, allowed to dry, NONTOXIC.
    Get an ATTORNEY.

  46. drawn out and melodramatic like bollywood: how is mixing spray foam important, and what does it release into the air, etc?

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