The Value of Internships and More
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The Value of Internships and More

>>All right. Hello, everyone, and good evening. My name is Jill Klees and I am
the iSchool Career Center Liaison. And I do thank you all very
much for joining me tonight. I’m really looking forward to talking
to you about the value of internship. So please do ask me questions
throughout the workshop. Go ahead and type them in
the chatbox at any time. I’ll keep checking it and make
sure that I can get back to you. I like to keep my workshops informal and
interactive so please do ask your questions. And, you know, even kind of
whatever it is you’re thinking about, internships or other types of experience. This is just a great thing then to
be able to pose your questions to me. So fill free to pop them in there. The session is being recorded
and it can be found afterwards under the career development site, there’s a section called Career
Webcasts and Past Recordings. And that’s where you can find the links to
all of the Career Development Workshops. And just for your own information, I am
available via email and phone to work with you on your career related questions. I can help critique your resumes. We can set up mock interviewing sessions. Or I can work with you on whatever you need that
has its focus on your career and job search. So always keep that in mind. And I do recommend that you check out their
resources on the career development site first or really become familiar with that. And then if you can’t find what you’re looking
for, then by all means feel free to contact me. So [inaudible] like my co-moderator
there, so that’s good news. All right. So moving on here. So let’s just talk about the elephant
in the room and get it out of the way. The “it,” that elephant in the room, that it
is that it is really not enough for all of you to complete your MLIS, to
graduate and get your degree, and then think that you’re now
qualified to get an LIS related job. While all of those things are super duper
important — so I’m not saying they’re not — they are a huge accomplishment, but, honestly,
an employer is not going to be impressed with just the fact that you [inaudible] the
degree and that you finished the program. What an employer will be impressed with, though, is the fact that you have completed your
MLIS degree and you have related experience. And that is why we’re all here today. So why do you need experience? You really need to be able
to demonstrate what you know. So by the time you finish your program
and you’ve graduated and you’re out there doing your post-MLIS job search, you really need to be able
to demonstrate what you know. So gaining some experience while you’re still
a student, it allows you to try out or what I like to call “reality test” and apply what
you’ve been learning in the classroom. It’s a great way to take the theoretical
classroom knowledge and then apply it so that you can get practical, hands-on
experience because that’s what you need and that’s what you’re going to use to talk about in interviews and talk
about with employers. And then, finally, you want to be
able to add value to your degree. So, as I said, just having the degree,
just finishing it, is not enough. You want to add value to it. You want to be able to demonstrate to
someone what you learned in your program. So we want to be able to back that
up with skills and experience. And one of the best ways to do that is to get
an internship while you’re still a student. So if we talked about kind of what is an
internship, it’s kind of a broad statement. It can be a broad statement. It can be paid or it can be unpaid. But typically it’s structured. It’s going to be supervised and it’s going
to have well defined learning outcomes. Usually has a start date and an end date. That’s [inaudible] of that
structure there as well. And it provides professional work
experience for you outside of the classroom. So an internship — and make note of
this because there’s a lot of confusion on this point — an internship
is for current students. And it’s really important
for you to recognize that. I worked with many recent grads
from the MLIS program who thought that they could get their experience after they
graduated and that was the plan in their mind. They were take all their
classes, focus on the class work, and then once they graduated
they thought that they’d be able to go back and apply for internships. And unfortunately that really is not true. You might find a couple examples where that does
work but that’s, you’ve got to see those out. For the most part internships are
designed for current students. So that’s something as a student now
you want to have on your mind and figure out where you’re going to
fit that into your plan. So if you look at internship
job descriptions, for example, they usually say they want a
currently enrolled student. So where are people, where are
all of you in your MLIS program? So let’s just, how many people
are new to the program? Just do a, raise your hand,
out of curiosity here. So we’ve got just two, two people brand new,
three people are brand new to the program. Got about five years, we’ve got
a halfway, we’ve got one year in. Are there people who are close to graduating? In your fieldwork. Anybody like this is it,
you’re going to be graduating? I’m in the [inaudible] program,
four courses left. So, Denise, for example,
have you done an internship? Elizabeth’s got “pretty soon.” Shenaid’s [phonetic spelling] next semester. I know Shenaid’s been doing
experience [inaudible] working. You got one year in [inaudible]. No. Denise, is it on your
radar to do an internship? We’ve got a December grad. So, yeah, Shenaid, you’re doing
[inaudible] is that you’ve done two. That’s awesome. Okay. Good. I’m glad you’re planning on it
because it’s super important. Hopefully graduating in the spring. And you’re in December. Okay. So I want you to be
able to, yeah, feel good. So like Shenaid, for example, who’s our
collaborate assistant, who’s on tonight, she works a fulltime job but she’s a collaborate
assistant here and she was a peer mentor. Those things count as well. So I’m going to talk about the different
types of experience that you can get because they don’t always have to be
considered or called an internship. But I want to get the point across
that it is super important for you all to do something that’s related to get relevant
experience and have that on your resume. And if you could do more than one thing, if you
could do a couple things, that’s even better. So I’d say your goal is to
do at least one internship. If you could do more, I highly recommend it. But diversifying your experience and building
your resume while you’re a student is really key to your success and your post-MLIS job search. I work with a lot of students. And then I work with a lot of students
who are getting ready to graduate. And then I work with alums. And the alums who come back to
needing work, typically the ones that are the hardest are those who did
not make good use of being a student and get the diverse experience that they need
to help them in their job search afterwards. Because you’ve got to think about it like
this: Once you graduate and you’re out there in the big pool of everybody and you’re
applying for the same types of jobs that everybody else is applying for
who just came out of library school, you’re basically competing with them. So what’s going to set you apart? And that’s kind of a whole
nother workshop in itself. But the point that I’m getting at is in
terms of what’s going to set you apart is if you just went through, you took all
your courses, and now you have your degree, but somebody else went through and took
all the courses and has their degree but did two different internships, has projects
on their experience, or I mean on their resume, and then volunteered somewhere, that
person has much more experience. They were able to apply what they were learning. They have different skills
that they’ve developed and they can talk about that in the interview. So it’s super important for you to
use this time as being a student to gain the experience that you need. Does anybody have any questions so far? Because do feel free just to type them in. Looks like a couple people are typing some
questions and so I’m going to keep my eyes out for those as I start to move forward here. All right. So here’s some of the other things
that I was talking about in some ways that you could start to get experience. So it doesn’t always have to
be called a formal internship. And I will come back to that and
talk about it a little bit more. Danielle has a question. Can you use your current employer as an intern? Typically not. There’s really not a whole lot of value in that. One, I guess my question to you would be,
Danielle, who’s your current employer? Is it related to the library field
or the LIS field in some way. But what’s going to be better for
you is to diversify your experience and to get some experience in another area. So even if your current employer right now
is related in some way to the LIS field, I would encourage you to try
to get some other experience and we’ll talk about some of the options here. But the more that you can put on your resume
to show the different things that you’ve done, to diversify the experience, to develop
different skill sets and be able to talk to those skills sets, I think the
stronger you are as an applicant when you’re applying for other jobs. So Denise’s question is: Do I need to do an internship is I’m currently
working in records and management now? You don’t necessarily need to, Denise. I mean if that’s where you want to end
up and you feel like that’s it, great. If you think that you might want to try out
some other areas because, being a student, I feel like it’s your job to
reality test out some other options. So right now you might have in your head, “Yeah. I’m sold on records management.” But if you want to try something else out,
maybe there’s something in the back of your mind that you always thought, “I wonder what it
would be like to,” I’ll just make something up, “what would it be like to work in a
public library and work with youth and developing programs for
our youth in the community? Because maybe that would
be something interesting. I always thought that kind of sounded fun.” Right. So maybe you can do an internship or
you can volunteer in some capacity that you get to kind of test that out and see if that
actually is even something that you’d like. So that’s always an option. Danielle works at a community college library. So if you feel like, Danielle, that
this is where you want to be, great. If you’re considering against, thinking
that maybe you want to do something else, then I would look at getting some
additional experience, diversifying. Elizabeth: “Even if it’s an internship for
just one credit, whether or not I can fit it in with school work and working fulltime?” Yes. So I would recommend a virtual internship
and we’re going to talk about that shortly. I think the great thing about our iSchool is
that there are a lot of different opportunities for you to get experience,
particularly for someone who is working fulltime and who has a life. There’s always opportunities. So we’ll talk a little bit more
about that as we go along here. Yes, so Shenaid says the virtual wins. Absolutely. Ha, I didn’t scroll down far enough there. So other types of experience
that you can consider. So it doesn’t always have
to be just that internship. So if you were to volunteer, you
can check in with your local library or other community-based organizations and see
if what kind of volunteer activities they have. And there might be some that would
help you develop a certain skill set. And, for example, there was,
I’ve had a couple students who, and I can’t remember exact the
places where they volunteered. But because they were going
to school, and they had a job, and they were doing a virtual internship, they
actually volunteered once or a twice per month but they did it for a whole year. So even though they only did it once or
twice a month, it was still something that they could put on their resume
and it was still allowing them to develop a different skill
set and network with people and develop different skills
and different experience. So volunteering is absolutely a viable option. You could also think about contract or
it could be like a short term project. So an example of that is I actually had a
student who found a project on SpartaJobs, and we’re going to talk a little bit more
about SpartaJobs, but that’s the campus job and internship database, not the formal
internships, the informal internships and I’ll talk a little bit more
about that in just a moment as well. But what she did is she found this short
term project on SpartaJobs and it was for an individual who, just a private
person, who had inherited a collection of historical documents, and he, it was
historical documents of a famous author. And he was looking for one
of our students to hire so that they could organize
and digitize the collection. And she was able to do that. You know, she set her own hours
and he paid her very well. And he bought the technology that she needed. And she worked on this project. It was for several months, to do that. But she could put that on her resume, too. So that was a great idea. Shenaid says, “I had a student who thought
public library child services was for them. But after being in a public
library on a Saturday for two months they realized they didn’t
want that fulltime so that helped them early on not choose that roadmap to classes.” That’s a great thing to include,
thanks, Shenaid. Because that’s absolutely true. I think oftentimes you could come to
library school and you have one goal in mind of what you think you want
to do, which is great. But oftentimes when you make that decision you
don’t have enough information to know about all of the other things that you
could possibly do with a Masters in Library and Information Science. So that’s why I encourage you to
try things out and see what’s sticks because you really might surprise yourself. There’s always part time work as well. You could do something like
be an on call librarian. You could interview to be in
a part time librarian pool. You could be a library clerk. You could be like Shenaid is,
you could be a student assistant, student technical assistant,
or a research assistant. And I’ll see those positions that are posted. They get sent out through the iSchool alert. And those are great things. In fact we, myself, we hire
students that help us in the career development work
that we’re doing for all of you. We have students that help us write blog
posts and do different types of work for us. And those are usually very, very
flexible and they are all done virtually because myself, I’m not on campus. So keep your eyes and ears
open for other possibilities. Professional associations, get involved. So raise of hands, how many of you
belong to a professional association? Raise your hand. And this should end up being
like everybody because it’s free. Seriously? Only four of you? Okay. So I recommend, honestly,
all of you should be signed up for a professional association,
get the free membership. If the free membership is up and then you’d
have to pay, it is still well worth it because you get the student rate and
the student rate is super cheap compared to a professional rate. And the benefits from belonging to
a professional association are huge. Because they have workshops, they have
conferences, they have their website. They have people you can connect with. You can find out about jobs. I mean there’s a lot of benefits to it. So to get experience from belonging to a professional association,
that’s where you can volunteer. You can volunteer to work at the conferences,
the different events that they’re putting on. And that’s just another great way to get
experience and to connect with other people. Student organizations. So, like Elizabeth said here, join a fist and she’s saying contact her,
which is a great thing to do. Student organizations are another
thing that could be on your resume. And if you’re in one of the leadership roles,
then you could certainly have that on there. Ah, Elizabeth is the membership director. Excellent. Way to go. Yeah. Thanks, Shenaid. If you’re comfortable, put your
email right in there, Elizabeth. So that’s a great thing to do that
I think students don’t think of as that being viable experience and it is. So I can’t remember the person’s
name but before the person said who I’m working fulltime,
how do I get experience? All of these different suggestions, these are
excellent things that you can do and fit them into your life because they aren’t something
necessarily that you have to do every week. And so it can be flexible that way. Community service. This can be, this is wide open. So depending on where you live, you
know, look around your community for ways to get involved that you might be able to help. So kind of look for a win-win. Again, I have heard from people that I
have worked in their community and a lot of times it was around, again, that organizing
kind of historical data, collection development, doing research, doing those types of things. But the opportunities are there. A lot of times, you know, you’re
not going to get paid for it but the experience is well worth it. And people need your expertise. So you might even say, “Hey,
are you looking for someone who can organize that, or
digitize that, or something?” And they might go, “Yeah. We would love that.” And go like, “Hey. I’m a student. I’m getting my Masters in
Library and Information Science. I just learned how to do that,” or, “I’m
in the process of learning how to do that. And I’d be happy to take
that on and work on that.” And, boom, there you’ve got experience. So the last point on here is including
projects from your coursework. And, again, a lot of students
don’t think of including projects as relevant experience and it very much is. In fact, it’s a great thing to do when you
don’t have a lot of relevant experience. You want to use your projects on your resume. And you can think of your
projects as little mini-jobs. And it’s a way, again, to
demonstrate what you’re learning and the skills that you’re developing. And then shortly I’ll show you some examples. Oh, actually, I think I’ve
got it right next here. Yeah. Let me show you. This is how you could put
projects on your resume. So you can give the project a title and
you give it accomplishment statements, just like it was a job. So check out these statements
and how they’re written. Notice they’re using a lot of
industry verbiage that relates to the type of job that you’d be seeking. And it really is a way to
demonstrate what you’ve been learning in your classes, what you’ve been working on. And this counts as relevant experience. So if all else fails and you haven’t put in
any other experience, please use your projects. In fact, I think not using your projects on
your resume if often a missed opportunity. So this could be another excellent way
to demonstrate your relevant skills. Questions so far? Question about any of these other
types of experience that you can get? Questions about using projects on your resume? Just go ahead and type them in and I’ll
kind of keep checking the chat box. But here are different types
of internships at our iSchool. So here’s what I refer to. I don’t know if you’ll hear anybody else refer
to it this way, but I refer to them as formal and informal types of internships. Here’s how I personally define it. The formal internships will get
you experience and course credit. So these formal internships, they are structured
and they have to have specific supervision because the supervisors are
following a particular format. They have a signed form with
our school that says, “I will offer students this, this, and this.” So all of these formal types of internships you
can find on the iSchool’s internship database and I will show you in a moment where you can
find that if you haven’t already seen that. But these types of internships, these formal
ones, they can be physical, so in person. They can be virtual. Or you also have the opportunity
to design your own. And all that information will be in the
internship handbook and I’ll show you in just a moment where those are. But those formal internships you have to complete these courses
before you can apply for those. So people who are brand new to the program,
they have to wait a little bit of time because they have to complete 200, 202,
203, and 204, and then you actually register for 294 which is the internship class. That means you have to pay for it but you get
course credit and you get your experience. Okay. Those are formal. Here’s how I define informal. So informal are like relationships,
informal internships you get experience and you can find those through SpartaJobs
which is, again, the campus job database. I will show you how to find that. Or you can find them on your own. The only prerequisite you would need for the
informal internships is you have to be qualified for them because you’re applying
for them just like a regular job. So, if you’re new to the program and you
haven’t completed these four classes yet, you are still eligible to apply for the
internships, or the projects, or part time jobs, or volunteer positions that
you may find on SpartaJobs. So don’t feel like if your new to the program, you have to wait before you can get your
feet wet and start doing some work, right. So you’ve got two options. So, again, how I define that
formal and that informal. So virtual internships, we
chatted a little bit about that. That’s a fantastic opportunity,
it really is because, again, if you’re doing classes fulltime, you’re
going to work fulltime, you have a family, you’re like, “Well, how the heck am I ever
supposed to get some additional experience?” So fortunately you have the option
of doing a virtual internship. Not all schools do so I think
that’s pretty awesome. And our program, because it’s online, really
essentially prepares you, uniquely prepares you to be very qualified to do a virtual internship. Yeah, I think it kind of
gives you an edge frankly over other MLIS students
because they’re not all online. And you guys have innately
are developing that skill. It’s just the nature of the
program that you’re in. And frankly I’ll tell you a lot of students
take that for granted and they don’t even think about that as a skill but you guys have already
developed this online distance learning skill that you have just because of
the program that you’re in. So the virtual internships is an opportunity
to give you that flexibility to kind of fit the internship into your very, very busy
lives because usually the work can be completed in the evenings or on the weekends. It’s not something that you have to
actually necessarily do during the day. How many else, you know, one person, but how
many other people are doing a fulltime job? Just raise your hands, let me get a sense. We have Danielle, Amanda, Tina. I know Shenaid is. So just, and Elizabeth, Denise, Alfonso. Oh, so about half of you or so. Okay. Had you all, has anybody considered
a virtual internship before tonight? Was that something that was on your radar? You can raise your hand or type in yes or no. That Danielle has. Anybody else? So I think it’s a fantastic option. Cool. Yeah. And I think you guys should definitely
look into it and check it out. Okay. Let’s see. See if there’s anything I forgot. Sometimes I start rambling. Okay. So here, let’s see. Where am I? Okay. So here’s how you can
find the internship information. So up here in the — oops cancel that. Did you guys see that pop up on the screen? Or did that just pop up on my screen? Just out of curiosity. You did see it. Oh, just online. Okay. [Laughs]. Denise said, “yes,” though. Maybe she meant the side. I have this stretch break and it
pops up every hour and reminds me to stand up and do some stretches. And it tells me stretches to do
which is actually quite cool. I’ve just been trying it out. Yeah. I like it. I highly recommend it. I’m testing it out and then I want to
send it to our HR people and go, “Hey, can you get us all this on campus?” because it’s really kind of cool. [Inaudible]. [Laughs]. Let’s see, so [inaudible]
professor’s permission. So that’s a role in Evertool, Danielle,
is that for a virtual internship? Yeah. Let me think. I’m trying to remember when
I went through all the stuff. It might but that’s not a big deal I
don’t think because you still have to, for the virtual internship you still have to
complete the courses the 202, 200, 203, 204. And then I think you have the
professor’s permission to enroll because you have to enroll in that course. So I don’t think that’s a problem, though. Yeah. Thanks, Shenaid. I think it’s those prerequisites. So I don’t think it’s a problem
with that, though, Danielle. Because I don’t think there
should be a problem with it. You just get their approval. So here’s how you can find
the internships information. So up here in the little search box next to
About, you could actually there just type in “internship database” and do a
search and some options will come up and then you could find it that way. Or you go right here to the Current Students
tab which is the top navigation from any of the pages of the iSchool and then
over here on the left, you’re going to be under Current Students you’re going to go
Career Pathways, and then Course Planning, and then buried under that
you’ll find Internships. But I just wanted to make sure
that that’s where you got it. Whose approval do I need? I may have to look into that. Let me write that, I’m going to write
that down really fast right now. Hold on, everybody, so that I can get
the answer and get back to Danielle. Okay. Okay. I’ll see what I can find out
and get back to you on that one. All right. So here’s how you can start to find the
information on internships because I want to show you this because I find like, I find
it kind of buried and it’s not always intuitive where to find this stuff so I
wanted to make sure that you do. So Current Students, Career Pathways, Course
Planning, and then you find Internships. And then you will come to this page right here. So you can click on the iSchool
Internships site database. You could check that out. Or here’s the virtual internship website. And, yes, these are for the
formal internships only, Terry. So I’m showing you those now
and then I will show you how to use SpartaJobs and find the informal ones. So here’s the Internship database,
virtual internships websites, and notice there are two different places. Also notice on here you have
the 294 Student Handbook. So if you’re an MLIS student and you want
to see all of the information you need about an internship, in fact, Danielle,
that’s where I’m going to go look and see if I can find the
answer to your question. If you’re a MARA student, then you
go to the MARA 294 Student Handbook and you can find all that
information there, too. So everything is under this Internships
page in the left-hand navigation in the purple box here it shows you
where all those things are as well. So internship info. Questions? Is everybody good? Knowing how to find what you’re looking for? Because I think that’s half the battle. Okay. Here’s the informal, SpartaJobs. So, question, how many of you are familiar
with the monthly newsletter that I send out? Show of hands. Called the “Caree eNews and Opportunities”. Seriously? Five of you? Really? You’re breaking my heart. So every month, usually the mid, towards
the end I send out a monthly newsletter. It’s got a job search tip. It takes you over to the career blog. It’s got information about upcoming workshops. It has a section called “Hot Jobs.” And the hot jobs are Library and
Information Science related jobs that I pull from SpartaJobs, the database, put on a
newsletter to show you that they’re there. Hmm, Elizabeth. If you, let’s see. Yeah. Well, I’ll have to talk to
you, Shenaid, about pushing that out. Let me write that down. Yeah. I’m thinking, but it is
an option because it’s for email but I think all students are
opting in because you need to, if you get any of the iSchool
alerts, then you have opted in. And then you would get it. Does that make sense? So, Elizabeth, like if you get any kind of
iSchool alert, then you should be getting it. Yeah. And you get it in 203. Hmm. Yeah. You’ll have to check. Okay. So, I do have the hot jobs. The hot jobs come from SpartaJobs. Okay, here’s the other question. How many of you are registered with SpartaJobs? Two? Okay. Come on, people. Let’s get with the program. [Laughs]. So here’s the program. All right. Under the Career Development tab,
under Job Search, yes, exactly. Right, Kim? That is why you are here. Because there is so much darn
information for all of you. And it’s really, I know it’s
difficult to find it. I can’t even find sometimes the things
that I’m looking for and I know it’s there. So I’m glad that you are all
participating because it’s important. And [inaudible] pick up all
these nuggets of information. Okay. So under the Career
Development tab, left-hand navigation, you’re going to go to Job Search and Agencies. And then you’ll see there’s
a spot that says SpartaJobs and [inaudible] staffing information
but SpartaJobs is what you want. It’s going to look like this page. And so I’ve got the arrows here showing
you what you need to do and how you log in. It’s password protected. Because you’re a current
student you have access to it. If you try to log in and you have any
issues logging in, send me an email. I will send that over to the main Career Center
on campus and they will get you hooked up. So it’s free for all students. Once you graduate and you’re an alum,
it could still be a great resource but it would cost $25.00 a year for one
year as an alumni to access to SpartaJobs. But I have to say I am always just amazed
at the jobs that are posted in there so it is well worth checking it out. And you want to think about it this way:
Employers are specifically seeking you. They are coming to, at SpartaJobs, because they
are seeking SJSU students and MLIS students, you know what your major is, right. So when you go in Search if you look down here
at SpartaJobs search tips, it says you log in, you click on the SpartaJobs
tab, click on Advanced Search. Or actually I think right now, I feel
like it’s called Detailed Search. And then under Majors and Concentrations
there is a pull down menu and you want to select the Library and Information Science,
that’s exactly what I do, how I find the jobs. I click on the Yes button so that I ignore
jobs that have all majors because a lot of times employers, when they post
a job, they will click all majors because they want more people to see their job. So even though I click Yes, and you’ll click
Yes, you’re still going to get a bunch of junk in there which means you’re still going to get
a bunch of random jobs that don’t relate to you but please don’t be turned
off by that, just keep going. Just scroll through it and find the ones that
are related to your major, and there are a bunch of them, and they are in many different states. There are most of them, yes, in California,
but there are positions posted all over. And when I do the newsletter I specifically
try and pull out the jobs that are in many different states so that
everybody can see what’s out there. And I try to sort of, you know,
everybody’s all over the place, so I try to hit them in different places. I don’t do this number five. I don’t do this job category
but then I just hit Submit. So that’s basically how you would use it. So, going back to internships, a lot of the
positions on here are fulltime regular jobs but there are a number of
them that say Internship. And when you find them on SpartaJobs, these are
what I would consider those informal internships which means you do not have to have
all the prerequisites of the classes. You do not need to take Library
294 and get credit for it. It’s going to be considered more like a job. It’s an internship. So they don’t necessarily care
where you are in the program. You just need to be qualified
in order to do the internship. Lisette’s question is do we have the
SpartaJobs access after graduation? You have access to it for about three months,
close to three months until the system on the campus realizes that you’ve
graduated and you’re no longer a student and they sort of wipe the system clean. After that time, as I was saying before, you
may still get access to it, you would just sign up as an alumni member through the Career
Center, and I can help you with that as well, and it would be $25.00 for
one year to have access to it. And I really think that’s not a bad deal at all. So that is SpartaJobs. That is finding what I call the
informal internships but, again, there’s lots of different jobs in
there so just check it out, too. You can see who’s hiring. And it gives you a nice environmental
scan of kind of what’s going on out there. And now you also want to be looking for my monthly newsletters
that has the hot jobs posted. Okay. Whew. I feel like I’ve been doing a lot of talking. Do you all have questions? Normally I feel like I think
I have more questions but tonight I feel like I’m just talking a lot. Anybody? Okay. So benefits of internships. And we have talked a lot about
these but I want to make sure that you really fully understand
why this is so important for you to do an internship or get
some sort of experience. Woo, Shenaid says they hire
interns all the time. Are they related to someone
having an MLIS, Shenaid? Like, what company do you work for? I know you’re HR but what
company do you work for? Cal Technology. So are they looking for LIS? [Inaudible].>>We hire interns all the time but
across all different disciplines. They literally do internship programs in
marketing, in finance, in computer engineering, and [inaudible] information technology.>>I hope you guys, do you guys hear her? Oh, I can see now she’s talking
but I don’t hear her. Oh, you can hear. [Inaudible]. I’m sorry.>>[Inaudible].>>As long as you guys can hear her
and you can hear me, we’re good. [Laughs]. Okay. All right. So benefits of internships. So be down to explore careers. So this is really important, too. So, of course, we’ve talked a lot about
getting the experience but having internships or other types of experience, it does give
you the opportunity to explore career fields and determine if the work content
or the environment is the right fit. And we touched on that early
on when we first started. But it is a great way to reality test your ideas
of the library and information science field and to diversify your experience
and skill development. I do encourage you to do
them in different places. I talked about that a little bit, too. And I mentioned it, but I’m going to say it
again, being a student really is your time to try things out and see what fits. I do feel like that’s your job as a student. So the LIS field is super broad
and it gives you a way just to kind of see what else is out there. Let me see, what do we have from Denise? What are your options if you
choose not to do an internship? What do you mean, “what are your options”? Tell me more about that. So Shenaid says they hire
across all disciplines. So that’s kind of cool. Another class. You mean just to take another
class instead of an internship? Is that what you’re asking? I would say the experience far
outweighs taking another class. And if any students want to
weigh in on that, go for it. So Danielle says some of the
pathways require an internship. Well, it’s going to be completely up to you,
Elizabeth, if it’s close to home, right. I mean if it’s commuting and kind
of away and that kind of stuff. Is that what, oh, you meant, you
meant close to home in Canada. I think I see what you’re saying. It doesn’t really matter. Just get the experience. Now the part where it could matter is
sometimes internships can actually turn in, they can convert into a regular
job but you’re still networking with people and people can be anywhere. So I don’t think I’d use
location necessarily as my guide. Shenaid says, “I didn’t see an internship that matched what I’m interested
in, teaching instructional design.” But she used to do peer mentorship and
collaborate experience which I think gives you that teaching experience for sure, Shenaid. And it does give you some
of the instructional design. So, again, when you write up your accomplishment
statements for the work that you’ve been doing on your resume, you can allude to the fact
that your super comfortable with webinars, you know the technology, you’re good at
talking with people, you do engage people. So there’s a lot of experience there. So you did a smart thing in getting experience
that was close enough to what you wanted to do. Okay. So definitely a benefit
is exploring careers. We’ve talked a lot about gaining experience. I don’t need to talk more about that. Earning credit, we talked about that, if you
do the formal internship, you’ll get credit. Of course financial income is always excellent because sometimes internships
are paid, not all of them. If you do the formal internships where
you’re getting credit, those aren’t paid. It’s kind of a choice: Credit or pay. But the informal ones, like the ones through
SpartaJobs, most of those could be paid. In fact, they kind of should be paid. So you can be checking out that. Again, some of them can convert to a real job. We had — oh, I can’t think of her name — but we had a couple of interns who actually
did virtual internships which they found through the virtual internship database, and when they graduated those
positions became regular jobs for them. One of them did it fulltime and
the other one kept it as part time and she had another fulltime job and she
did the virtual one as a part time job. So you never know. So it’s always good to kind of check those out. I think another super important thing that you
might not think about is networking contacts that you’re making through
this internship experience. And you may have heard, I hope you’ve heard, that the best way to find a
job is through networking. And so to be able to increase and
build your network is super important. It’s vitally important to your
job search post-graduation. So I always talk about, you know,
play your student card, right, and connect with many people as you can, ask
professionals questions, and learn from them. So that’s a valuable piece right
there, the networking contact. Of course, you’re getting the resume experience. The people you connect with, you can
add them to your LinkedIn profile. How many of you have LinkedIn profiles? One, four, four, five. So just about five of you
have LinkedIn profiles. Again, that’s something that
I would definitely recommend. Oh, I think it jumped up to eight there. Definitely recommend that you put a LinkedIn
profile together and start working on it. They are, I have past workshops on putting your
profile together if you want to review those or if you have other questions about
it, you can certainly send those to me. Ooh, that’s interesting, Shenaid. Shenaid said they won’t hire
anyone without a LinkedIn profile. Lisette hasn’t had time to do it. So that’s okay. Just keep it in the back of
your mind and know that it’s one of those things that you want to do. Because it is super, super important. And when you’re networking,
when you have other experience and you meet people, connect
with them on LinkedIn. It starts to grow that network as well. And then references, that’s a super benefit
to doing internships, or volunteering, or wherever you are, but getting that experience
because now you have broadened your scope of people who know how you work, right. They know what kind of employee you are so now
you have broadened your scope of who you can use to be references for you as you move forward. So there’s many, many benefits to
an internship or other experience. Questions? Looks like Lisette is typing something up. Anybody have any questions so far? Lisette says, “Would you ask an internship
supervisor or professor to be a reference?” I would. I would definitely ask a
professor if, you know, they know me well, or perhaps I was their student assistant, or
I’ve done some projects with them, absolutely. And I would 100% I would ask an
internship supervisor, you know, if I respected that person
and we worked well together. If I knew they were going to give me a
positive reference is the caveat there. But I would absolutely use them. You know, why not? That’s great. Especially if you’ve been self-employed for a
long time and now you need those references. That’s something you can definitely rely on. Okay. I think we’ve talked before. This sounds familiar, Lisette. Feeling like references are
your weak point, yeah. So this is another way to do it. Yeah. It’s all coming back to me now. [Laughs]. Thanks, Shenaid. She’s [inaudible] professor’s
fantastic for career help. And you may find some are better
than others so just find the ones that you connect with and use them as mentors. That’s a great thing to do. Hmm. So take some advice from someone’s who’s
almost graduating that she wishes she knew about it earlier in the program to
take advantage of all these things. So. Oops. Something else I want to show,
from everything that I’ve been saying and all the comments we’ve had in the chat
box, if you still don’t want to believe me about the benefits of an internship, do check
out what other students have been doing. This would be super, super motivating. I love looking at these pages
and I’m always blown away at what all of our students are doing. So check the community profiles pages
and just read about what’s possible. So here’s how you find them. Again, from the main navigation at the top under
People there’s a tab for Community Profiles. And then here’s all the different
categories under Community Profiles. And you’ll see that there’s one
specifically for virtual internships. So if you want to read about what have some of
our students done in their virtual internships, what are the companies that
they were working for, right? This is a great way to test it out. And then you can certainly track down
these students, send them an email, and ask them some questions because
students like helping students, of course. Or even if they have graduated
they used to be you. So they’re totally open to talking
to you and answering your questions. So don’t feel embarrassed or feel
like you’re going to bug them. Again, this is your time as a student
so reach out and connect with people. So do check the community profiles. You can get all kinds of really
interesting information and find out, “Wow, I never thought of doing that.” Or, “I never thought of being an intern here.” Or, “I certainly never thought
of this virtual internship.” So these are fantastic pages. How many people have visited the
Community Profile pages before? One, two, three. It’s like the same people, you guys. Okay. So I highly recommend
that you check this out. Just spend some time cruising through it. It so helps you see the bigger
picture of all that is possible with what you’re learning in library school. So check it, dream, get inspired,
reach out, talk to people. Thanks, Lisette. Lisette says she’s done two virtual — ooh,
that’s awesome — two virtual internships. So if you have questions, definitely reach out. Lisette, you want to put your
email address in the chat box in case they don’t know your last name? That way they can find you. And, yes, then you can definitely use those
internship supervisors as your references. Absolutely. That’s fantastic. Okay. So we have just a little bit of time. Keep the questions coming if you have them. Thanks, Lisette. And here just ten tips overall
of internship success. So what I’m thinking of now, okay, so now you have an internship,
right, let’s jump to the future. Let’s say you’ve got your internship, here
are some tips that you want to keep in mind to be successful during your internship. So always think about having a can-do attitude
or just that positive attitude, right. Because attitude really speaks loud and
clear and it makes a lasting impression. So make sure that yours is
one of your greatest assets. So that means really taking
on any task that’s assigned to you no matter how small,
just do it with enthusiasm. And take the initiative to acquire new skills. And if you get some constructive
criticism, just accept it graciously and always maintain your sense of humor. And remember that if you act with a
can-do attitude, and a positive attitude, and enthusiasm, and then you go back to ask
that internship supervisor to be a reference, they’re going to have some really
great things to say about you. So tip number two, and I think this one’s
really important, learn the unwritten rules. So think about getting to know your
co-workers early on in the internship because they’re the ones that are going to
help you figure out the company culture. You can pay attention to kind of
subtleties and internal politics. You know, sit back and kind of observe what’s
going on because you’re going to need to adapt, observe, learn, and process a
large volume of information. So just watch people closely, see how
things get done, ask lots of questions, and pay attention to how people
interact with each other. That’s how you can learn those unwritten rules. Take your assignments seriously. Again, no matter how small or how big, each
one is an example of how you work, right. So take them all seriously. Start to build a reputation for yourself of
being dependable, being diligent, and accurate. And you might encounter some stuff that
doesn’t work out well in the work environment but ask questions, seek some direction, do
whatever you need to do to get the job done. Definitely meet your deadlines. And that’s super important, too, if you’re
ever a dual intern, more importantly you need to meet your deadlines or use some
excellent communication skills. And definitely set realistic
goals and expectations. So that’s going to correlate between your
learning goals, right, what are the outcomes of that internship and then the daily
kind of work goals that you have. And if you keep a list of some of the things
that you’ve worked on because it’s super easy to just kind of forget some of the
accomplishments that you’ve had. So you might want to keep a list. And then when you’ve finished, if you
need to write something up kind of based on your performance, you
can go back and review that. Or when you’re adding this internship experience
to your resume, you can go back and review and see all the things that
you’ve done and decide which of those accomplishments you
now want to add to your resume. So those are some good tips
and I have a few more for you. Communicating, just assume that
everyone else knows more than you do. Even if they don’t, just pretend like they do. But don’t be afraid to present useful
ideas that may save time, or money, or solve problems because
that’s always sounds like, “Hey, that person’s really paying attention. They’re enthusiastic. They’ve got some new and fresh ideas.” Just make sure you’re not overly assertive. I think it’s good to be assertive but not
push it too far because you are an intern, you are there observing, and learning. So just kind of play it cool. Be flexible. Accept a wide variety of tasks. Don’t get upset about some of the
things that they might give you to do. Always be a team player. Find a mentor. I think that one’s really important. And for me finding a mentor goes
back again to formal and informal. It doesn’t always have to be someone who’s
a formal mentor which means you went up and asked them, “Hey, will you be my mentor?” But it can be informal. And informal is when I kind of just
sit back and I watch certain people, and I see those people that I respect. There’s something about them and
the way they work that I respect. And so I watch them and I learn from them. I may ask them some questions. I may take a walk with them, go get some coffee,
ask them questions about how they got started in their career, different things like that. But I can use people as mentors. They may not even know that I’m doing that but they can be my informal mentor
and I learn a lot from them. And then most of all make sure you have fun. You know, you really want to enjoy
what you’re doing, and enjoy learning, and develop yourself professionally
and personally. So participate in work related social
functions if they have them, even if that’s not as comfortable for you or the norm for you, but
try to step outside of your comfort zone and go. Even if you go just for a little
while, just to show that you’re there, and you’re participating, and that you’re
an active member in your work community. So that is all the information
that I have for you guys tonight. Are there additional questions
that you have for me? Or any comments? Alfonso’s typing something in. Looks like Lisette’s typing something in. You guys are very welcome. Good. I’m glad it was practical. I’m glad it was informative. My job was I really wanted to inspire you
to help you realize how important it is to do an internship or to get
some sort of additional experience because it makes a huge difference with those
students that I see on the end of the program as they are getting ready to graduate
and move out and doing their job search. Or they have graduated and now
they’re coming back for help. And those that have the experience, it’s
so much easier for those people to go out and do a job search and get
jobs versus the ones that don’t. Those are the ones that are
really, really very, very difficult. And there’s no real way to catch up. If you don’t get that experience when you’re
a student, it’s very difficult to catch up. So awesome. Feel free to email me if you have
additional questions later on. And let me make sure that nobody
else is typing anything in. Looks like Shenaid is typing something. [Inaudible] is getting together a
checklist for new students to work from. It was [inaudible] career. Ah, yeah. I’m evaluating. Okay. We may need to add that in there, right. That’s great. Thank you, Shenaid. Thanks for having that lens
on, that’s super important. I really appreciate that. All right. I thank all of you for joining me tonight. Shenaid, thanks as always for your help. Absolutely appreciate it. Have a great evening everyone. And, again, feel free to email me
if you have additional questions. Bye.

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